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Dave the plumber

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que pasa' ??
« on: April 23, 2013, 08:22:34 PM »
   Nuttin' going on here in awhile...........  Does someone have an old artillery photo they can post for us all to speculate on ??   The last ones posted have been a lot of fun, and brought about an active lively discussion

joevann

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Re: que pasa' ??
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 10:03:47 PM »
Best I can do for boredom.

speedenforcer

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 10:42:37 PM »
Funny, :o
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Re: que pasa' ??
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 12:18:38 PM »
Here's a photo. Does anyone know anything about it?

Selma Brooke Gunner

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 01:40:07 PM »
Thinking that it maybe 42pdr smoothbore siege guns. Check out the stands of grape. That is a good picture.
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Dave the plumber

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Re: que pasa' ??
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 04:33:28 PM »
   I always wondered why they attached a wood sabot to a stand of grape.    Any thoughts ??

John M. Brooke

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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 04:40:07 PM »
It appears the soldier standing behind the stands of grape is missing an arm. I think that might be his doctor to the right judging by the look of his sword. I think that's a U.S. model 1840 medical staff officers sword.

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 04:41:58 PM »
to make it more rigid, otherwise all that crap would start to come apart in the barrel and lose energy and range

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 02:29:59 AM »
I love these old photos.

I would guess a 32-lber smoothbore. 

And I aslo understood the wood was to keep the bottom plate from shattering in the barrell so it could still push the other pieces forward.  If it shatters then there is too much space for the propelling gases to get past the balls, rings and plates thus reducing their range.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 03:52:29 AM »
if you notice there are 11 officers in the picture. nine of them have shoulder boards while one of them has no shoulder boards but his trousers have the officers stripe and he is carrying a sword. The man with the missing arm has no shoulder boards but if you look at his trousers just above the stand of grape you can see the officers stripe.
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Re: que pasa' ??
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013, 07:20:00 AM »
 ok, how is the wood sabot attached ??

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013, 11:40:51 AM »
In my opinion, and I could be wrong but I believe the man with the missing arm could be staged. notice the front of his hirt, there is a large bulge, could this be his arm concealed to appear like he is missing an arm.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2013, 12:10:58 PM »
This looks like one of those many images taken in the fortifications around Washington.  It would explain the large number of government workers....err.. officers.. standing around doing nothing.   >:(

Perhaps the soldier with the missing arm has it bandaged against his body to immobilize it while it heals.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2013, 12:24:57 PM »
The sabot would have to have the bolt that holds the top plate run thru it. The only other way would to have the bottom plate nailed to the sabot but I don't recall ever seeing a bottom plate with any other holes other than the bolt hole in the center.

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2013, 01:05:03 PM »
Super glue  ;D
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