Gun Show Pickups

[6lbgun]

Good Morning
     Picked these up at a local gun show from a cartridge collector this past weekend.   
God Bless
Dan

[CarlS]

You must be living right!  Next you'll tell us you got them all for $20.   

[6lbgun]

     Paid a little more than $20.  .   Always try to make the local gun shows.  I'm always in the market for a couple of thousand rounds of ammo.  While I'm at the show I'll beat the bushes for CS fuzes, primers etc.  Finding stuff like this rarely happens.
Dan

[Steve Phillips]

I am curious about the Selma primers. I have found tin plated iron tube primers that look like these but don't know of copper tube variety from Selma in this style. Are these actually from Selma?

[6lbgun]

Steve
     Here's a pic of a Selma primer box with two primers.  The pic was posted back in Feb 2013 by Selma Hunter.  The box is also shown in Bill Lockridge's  book on Civil War Selma on page 211.  The other pic is a close up of the primer on the right.   Both primers are made of brass.
     I am aware of the tinned iron primers that you speak of. Why would the same facility manufacture the same primer in two different metals?  The following is just a theory with no documentation to back it up:
     Perhaps the tinned (to prevent corrosion) ironed primers were made when Selma was joint Army/Navy operation and brass primers were produced by the Naval Laboratory after the Navy took complete control in mid 1863.  Just a thought.
Dan

[Steve Phillips]

I think the iron primers were late war when they were short on copper. I just have never personally found the copper in that style. I have found many copper of the standard styles.

[6lbgun]

The iron ones being late war due to copper shortages makes more sense.  Location of where the were found would help.

Speaking of the iron ones:  If any out there has a spare iron one (dug or not), I need one for my CS primer collection.
Thanks
Dan

[Dave the plumber]

Dan,     can you please post a few photo's of the center primer please. I haven't seen that one.  And if you are coming to Richmond this weekend, could you please bring it with you ?

[Steve Phillips]

Iron primers from Selma.

[Steve Phillips]

In over 40 years of diving at Selma I have found only a few of the iron primers and as far as I know no one else has found any. I traded off a couple over the years and I think they have moved around. When you are in Alabama you should come and see the various styles from Selma in my collection.

[Selma Hunter]

Guys,

My take on the difference in color or tone on the primers shown in my book is that the top has been sealed with lacquer or spar varnish.  Both were used if I am not mistaken.  See Dahlgrens treatise.

Thanks for sharing.  I am not sure but I may have one more of the metallic Selma Quill primers but I will have to look.  They are non-ferrous.

If you are interested in selling one of the small Selma friction primers please let me know. 

Ya'll have fun at the show.

[6lbgun]

Steve
     I'll take you up on the invite.  I plan on being down your way next spring or summer.

Dave
     I'll try to get those pictures of the quill primer posted later today.  I'll bring this stuff along with me to Richmond this weekend.

Take care
Dan

[6lbgun]

Dave
     Here's some pics.
Dan

[Dave the plumber]

thanks Dan !!   That is a new type to me. See you tomorrow

[John D. Bartleson Jr.]

Dan, coujld you explain how this last primer functions??
Regards,
John
Beautiful images BTW