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Artillery / Re: Federal Caseshot Matrix
« Last post by alwion on January 17, 2019, 03:16:00 PM »   this is for making a hardening black pine resin, used 100's of years ago. might have been it, as it would have been easy to make
Artillery / Re: Federal Caseshot Matrix
« Last post by alwion on January 17, 2019, 03:10:42 PM »
when I had the choice to buy a couple, I thought the dark one was pine pitch, was kinda sticky and more like amber. the sulfer one I did get I just looked at, and I would swear it looks like yellow spray foam, which could be "modeled"
Artillery / Re: Federal Caseshot Matrix
« Last post by pipedreamer65 on January 17, 2019, 07:18:59 AM »
Thanks Callicles, Carl and redbob.  I will make a small experiment using roofing pitch/patch (guess black mammie is not PC?) and combine with some other items to come up with something that looks authentic. 
Artillery / Re: Great Add To My Collection
« Last post by Woodenhead on January 16, 2019, 02:51:07 PM »
Steve - I have the fondest memories of my last visit to your great collection accompanied by the late great Chuck Jones. Who else in the world has found a CS shotgun bayonet? I hope by this year's Marietta Show I can handle the long trip down south. It is slow going right now.

I've included four invoices from Churchill & Co. from your neighborhood because they were using Read's copper cups with their Parrott ammunition and big Reads. I could not understand why this was going on in early 1864 when the South had lost its primary source of copper in southeast Tennessee. Why not employ wrought iron which was plentiful in the vicinity? It was clearly intentional. After seeing Carl's fine Read-Parrott bolt, I understand that using copper on their Parrott ammo was regulation in Alabama ever since Dr. Read set up the first production lines in the state. In Richmond, the foundries stuck to iron sabots because they were essentially copying the work of Robert Parrott in New York. So, despite notification from Dr. Read that he had abandoned iron in favor of copper/brass at the start of 1862, VA almost entirely stayed with wrought iron thru 1865. They ignored Read while ordnance authorities in Read's home state listened to him. That helps explains why there was very little production of the terrible Mullane (but beautiful, of course) shells despite orders from the Richmond Arsenal for all Southern arsenals to adopt the copper disc. Deep South foundries choose to make Read shot and shell instead. So, when Churchill & Co. asked around for the correct patterns for their Parrotts in early 1863, they were instructed to employ Read's copper cup. That was the regulation sabot.

Below are four instructive invoices showing Churchill's production. There are many more. In 1862, the firm operated around Columbus, Miss., supplying the Briarfield Arsenal. In early 1863, they moved to Columbiana, AL, and sent their shells to Selma to be finished and distributed. I believe that many of their copper-saboted Read-Parrotts found their was to Virginia. I believe many of the Port Gibson 20 and 30 pounder Parrotts were made by them. Note on the 3rd invoice below, they charged for lacquering their shells. Note on the last invoice they are charging different prices for brass and copper sabots. I recall years ago Pete George identified some of those dug in VA as having brass sabots instead of the usual copper.

Artillery / Re: revolver cannon patent
« Last post by alwion on January 15, 2019, 08:16:05 PM »
Artillery / revolver cannon patent
« Last post by alwion on January 15, 2019, 08:15:33 PM »
thought this was interesting
Artillery / Re: Great Add To My Collection
« Last post by CarlS on January 14, 2019, 06:47:51 AM »
Woodenhead:   Sorry for delay in replying.  The days just arenít as long as they used to be and I canít seem to find the time to do everything too often.  >:(  Thanks for the great reply and super information. I will certainly keep this with my projectile.  I have some more info to add to this when I get a chance hopefully tonight.  If you get a chance the visit to Steveís is an amazing experience. If you can make the Marietta Show this year you wonít be far away. 
Artillery / Re: Federal Caseshot Matrix
« Last post by CarlS on January 14, 2019, 06:41:12 AM »
Seemingly since no one has offered this in response no one is aware of that the two matrix types (black and yellow) are composed of.  I have always understood that the Black is an asphalt type of pitch and the yellow is often referred to as sulfur.  I presume they are some sort of compound based on the great variance seen in them when cutting them open.  Perhaps one of the patents gives more detailed description of how it is made.

I think there is no issue with creating the matrix example as it likely could be taken apart back to the original components if so desired
Artillery / Re: Federal Caseshot Matrix
« Last post by speedenforcer on January 13, 2019, 04:59:41 PM »
Pipe, in all reality I think it is an excellent idea you have.
Artillery / Re: Federal Caseshot Matrix
« Last post by pipedreamer65 on January 12, 2019, 03:37:51 PM »
Well damn, sorry i asked.
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