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Artillery / Re: Blown cannon pieces
« Last post by Wilmington Mike on May 19, 2018, 12:33:08 PM »
Steve and Scott...I grew up at Carolina Beach where the salvage operations of the Modern Greece by Navy divers was based.  I would ride my bike down to Fort Fisher to watch the divers work, and then go to the CB yacht basin to watch the divers offload the artifacts.  Years later I dove on the Greece with some older friends; we did so with a permit which you could acquire from the State at that time.  We recovered 6 bars of lead and reported this to the folks at Fort Fisher.  They had lots of bars of lead and only wanted the serial numbers stamped on the bottoms for their records.  I only dove the wreck twice...I do not know when the permits ceased to be issued, but there were a number of bars recovered during the time period of issuance.
Artillery / Re: Rare shrapnel
« Last post by speedenforcer on May 19, 2018, 07:13:03 AM »
Artillery / Re: Blown cannon pieces
« Last post by Dave the plumber on May 19, 2018, 06:53:45 AM »
 Carl's trunnion and trunnion cap are two of the coolest relics I have ever had in my hands !  Especially, identified with a great story to boot !!
Artillery / Re: Blown cannon pieces
« Last post by scottfromgeorgia on May 18, 2018, 04:42:16 PM »
I have a lead ingot exactly like that from the Modern Greece wreck. Here is the letter I got with it:



5701 Yadkin Road – Suite 200
P.O. Box 11009
Fayetteville, North Carolina  28303
(910) 867-5159

July 2, 2002

To Whom It May Concern:

This is to certify that the lead ingot with the inscription “BAGILLT WORKS NEWTON KEATES & Co LIVERPOOL” on the front and the number “37” on the back came from the blockade runner Modern Greece.

The Modern Greece ran aground on June 27th 1862, off of Fort Fisher, NC  while trying to evade the Union ships U.S.S. Stars & Stripes and U.S.S. Cambridge. Some of her stores were salvaged immediately.  She was eventually covered in about 30 feet of sand until the spring of 1962. A severe storm uncovered the wreck. Shortly afterward, various U.S. departments became involved. Navy divers began to salvage what was left of the wreck on March 15th 1962.

The person from whom we acquired he lead ingot was involved in the 1962 salvage efforts. I am prohibited from divulging any personal information by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. We purchased the ingot from him in 1995. It has remained in our possession until June 30, 2002. On June 30, 1992 we delivered the ingot into the possession of Scott H. Jacobs.

Keith Reeder
Operations Manager
Parker Pawn Shops
Fayetteville, NC

Here is a pic of the salvage operation with some of the lead ingots:

Here is one of the guys who was there who mentions these exact ingots:
Artillery / Re: Blown cannon pieces
« Last post by Steve Phillips on May 18, 2018, 11:18:58 AM »
The lead bar was in Tom Dickey's collection when he died. The information I was given is that it came from the blockade runner Modern Greece.
Artillery / Re: Blown cannon pieces
« Last post by Wilmington Mike on May 18, 2018, 08:47:47 AM »
Excellent artifacts, guys.  Steve, I see a bar of lead in your first picture.  I am just curious about any ID markings on it.  I assume you found it diving from a wreck down your way?
Miscellaneous / Re: Which one of my fellow "idiots" left this behind?
« Last post by divedigger on May 17, 2018, 10:09:20 PM »
dang,somebody is gonna miss that
Artillery / Re: Mansfield recoveries
« Last post by rommack on May 17, 2018, 11:18:25 AM »
Nice Carl ! Do you know were it was dug or any history ? It looks like one I dug years ago but let get away from me !
Artillery / Re: 8 inch shell?
« Last post by CarlS on May 16, 2018, 07:50:34 PM »
Thanks.  You said in a few words what I rambled to say!
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